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Did a roommate of yours become a treasured friend? Did someone you lived with open your eyes to a different world? We welcome stories of 200 words or less that we can publish. Write: mactoday@ macalester.edu. Or Macalester Today, College Relations, Macalester College, 1600 Grand Avenue, St. Paul, MN 55105.

 

Two strangers who get to know each other by sharing a dorm room don't always become good friends. But when they do, well, life is rich.

Ask alumni about their most vivid college memories and 10-to-1 they are more likely to recall a good friend than an outstanding class. The pairing of roommates is done by Residential Life and may be the most eagerly awaited mail of the summer among new students. Once on campus, roommates may become the best of friends or simply share space. Jan Shaw-Flamm '76 talked with three pairs of students who met as first-years to find out what makes chance roommates into steadfast friends.

Ndeye Diago Dieye '07

Dakar, Senegal Majors: economics, Japanese

Elianne Farhat '07

Lived together in Dupre 321 and George Draper Dayton 112

'I had prejudices against Americans in general. Getting to know her and her family better proved to me, once again, that prejudices are always wrong.'

Ndeye Diago Dieye '07, far left, and Elianne Farhat '07. "I think we're both ready to take on the world--particularly the world-less-traveled," Elianne says.

How are you different?

Diago: Elianne is Americano-Lebanese; I am Senegalese. She hated math; I loved it. She is Christian; I am Muslim.

Elianne: Diago has a much more worldly background than I do. She grew up in Dakar, went to a UWC [United World College] boarding school in Wales, came to study at Macalester and [then] studied abroad in Japan....I grew up in Northeast Minneapolis in an immigrant Lebanese community, and I had visited Lebanon sometimes with my family, but mainly traveled within the U.S. [At this writing, Elianne was spending seven months in Amman, Jordan.] I've always been jealous of her globetrotting life, particularly because she's done it on her own intelligence and merit.

What has been the greatest source of conflict?

Diago: I got mad at Elianne because she always woke me up after I'd gone to bed. She went to bed late and I had to wake up early. I am a light sleeper, so anything can wake me up. Mornings were payback times, so I'd make as much noise as I could....I don't remember exactly how we resolved the issue, but it was resolved for sure, since we roomed the following year, too.

Elianne: Neither of us is prone to dramatics and, for the most part, we're pretty easygoing....She basically has a much more regular schedule than I do--I sleep late, get up when I need to, skip meals, etc. Diago's like clockwork most of the time.

What do you have in common?

Diago: I enjoyed hanging out with her a lot; she has a very calming and balancing personality, and it was always fun to dress up on weekends and go around campus looking for parties.

Elianne: I think we're both ready to take on the world--particularly the world-less-traveled. We have most things in common. Except for Celine Dion--she's all Diago's.

What have you learned from each other?

Elianne: I love how Diago is not afraid--or at least doesn't show her fear. She sees something she wants and she goes for it. Seeing her "push the limits" has been a great motivation for me.

Diago has helped me expand the narrow vision I [had] of Muslims. Narrow, not in the sense of prejudice, but narrow in the sense that I only knew of Middle Eastern Muslims. It has been good for me to expand that knowledge, and it's been great to participate in some prayers and iftaar [the meal that breaks the daily fast during Ramadan].

Also, I [took French] and Diago was a big help. She's not only taught me about the French language, but it's been great just talking to her...about Senegalese and broader African culture. We have a very good mutual friend from Ghana, and when the two of them get together, it's like putting a loud Southerner and an outspoken Yankee in the same room.

Diago: Just observing Elianne, I learnt that it was possible to study hard and still have a fun college experience. I still don't know how she managed it. She wasn't the kind of person that would study for hours and hours, but I know she always got good grades. I guess that's what it means to be smart.

Before coming to the U.S., though I went to an international high school where there were Americans, I had prejudices against Americans in general. Getting to know her and her family better proved to me, once again, that prejudices are always wrong. Also, she used to explain to me basic stuff like why I should use cold water to wash my colored clothes or more serious stuff like the controversy over Bush's victory over Al Gore in 2000.

'I was only 5 when [we became a] democracy. I'm much more pro-American. Tim is more critical of Bush and politics.'

Tim Lee '08, left, and Paul Bisca '08. "Paul and I have a trust that's unspoken, but very visible," Tim says. "Even when we really disagree, [it's OK because] this is Paul."

Paul Bisca '08

Tim Lee '08

Lived together in Doty 309 and Wallace 107

What was your first impression of each other?

Tim: I had an immediate first impression--he's taller than I am.

Paul: He's a rugby player, twice as strong as I am.

How are you different?

Paul: Tim carries around these major chemistry books. I talk about [nation] states.

Tim: It's good we don't share fields of study; our personalities would skirmish. We have respect for each other's knowledge.

There are differences in how we were raised. Paul grew up in a former Communist state with a more controlled lifestyle that makes him more driven. Our motivations are black and white. I'm very hoopla, hippy, very relaxed.

Paul: I was only 5 when [we became a] democracy. I'm much more pro-American. Tim is more critical of Bush and politics. I didn't lack anything in Romania, but I did experience transition and disappointments in the process [of moving to democracy]. It's the way we were--50 years in a cage and overnight it's gone and you're let loose.

What have you learned from each other?

Paul: I learned to become more considerate. As an only child, I didn't have to worry about other people so much. Tim is a very good listener and I learned to be a better listener. He's very good at reading people. It's one thing to understand another [person], it's another to empathize--Tim does that.

Tim: I learned to be more ambitious and grateful. I'm from a pretty privileged family. I knew going to college was a big deal, but I never appreciated what an opportunity this is.

My parents were both international students. Paul, being an international student, gives me a different perspective [on their experience]. He's here to work, to get good grades and go to grad school....My dad is from Singapore, my mom from Indonesia. They met at the University of Oregon. Dad said, "Remember the bottom line is you're going here to study," but I didn't get it....Now I get it.

Paul: Our parents make the most worthy investment in sending us to school. I'm going to maximize this privilege. It's an opportunity to internalize different values, to make every moment count. Tim looks more for life experience, but whenever he's around, he's always with a thick chemistry book.

Why does your friendship work?

Tim: There's a certain openness in our relationship. I'm more outspoken and extroverted. Paul realized the function of roommates and how to make the most of it.

Paul: If I don't like what [Tim is] doing, we get it out in the open....There is an openness and a transparency in our relationship.

Tim: Paul and I have a trust that's unspoken, but very visible. Even when we really disagree, [it's OK because] this is Paul.

Paul: I feel the same way. [You need to] get the context right and the basic rules right. See the specific political language I'm using? Once the paradigm is internalized....

Tim: If our relationship is any kind of model, it's because he's international. There's a big gap between the international and the domestic students....Mac students need to take advantage....It's very important that domestic students try to know international students.

Paul: This divide is...understandable, but it should be changed. In Romania, there is more time [for things like friendship]; it's more easygoing. Here everything goes fast.

'Unbeknownst to our parents, these four people from distinctly different cultures were exactly alike.'

Madeline Nguyen '07, left, and Betsy Engebretson '07: "We laugh all the time around each other. Madeline tells the best stories ever," Betsy says.

Elizabeth (Betsy) Engebretson '07

Tuong-Vi (Madeline) Nguyen '07

Lived together in Doty 200 and Grand Cambridge Apartments

How are you different?

Madeline: I am Vietnamese, first-generation American. My parents left their small village outside of Saigon, Vietnam, in the spring of 1975. I was born in Burnsville, Minnesota, the only daughter with three older brothers. My parents are still in Burnsville. Betsy is a white American with predominantly Scottish and Norwegian ancestors.

Betsy: Madeline goes to bed before me and wakes up before me. I wake up with just enough time to get to class. She lives in Olin-Rice [Science Center] and I avoid it....Madeline knows the area and the city well. I never lived in a big city. In her first e-mail before we were roommates, she wrote that she came from a small town in Minnesota, so I'm thinking "small town," but she's from Burnsville [a Twin Cities suburb]. I grew up in McAllister, Montana, which is literally a bar and a post office. I lived there until I was 12, and my parents have moved back.

Madeline: In our first year, Betsy was much more active in Macalester org[anization] life. She participated in Pluralism and Unity, Amnesty International, MacDems and a few other clubs. I, on the other hand, was trying to keep my head afloat with my classes and Mac women's crew team.

I am also very goal-oriented and I know that I want to be a doctor, while Betsy is still a bit unsure what she wants to do after she graduates....Betsy is very outspoken in her opinions regarding her liberal politics. I, on the other hand, am probably more moderate and prefer to listen to others' opinions on current politics.

What has been the greatest source of conflict?

Madeline: Betsy and I have not had much in the way of conflict. Betsy is pretty easygoing, and I try not to be a nagging hen, so it works out well pretty much most of the time.

Betsy: No major conflicts....Madeline is neater than I am, so I feel that my messiness can be a source of conflict.

•Students taking a residential First-Year Course are matched with other students taking that course. Then the class is placed together on a particular residence hall floor.

•Students who request a single-sex floor are placed in Doty, the only first-year residence hall offering single-sex floors.

•Students with an international address are matched to students with a U.S. address.

•Ethnic and cultural diversity are considered throughout the placement process.

•After those considerations, students are matched as well as possible according to preferences they have stated on their housing cards, including quiet floors, neat room vs. cluttered, waking up early vs. sleeping in, and staying up late vs. going to bed early.

 

What do you have in common?

Betsy: We do like the same kind of music, mostly indie rock. Our first year we went to a Bob Dylan concert and to [the band] O.A.R. together and we saw Rent together....We proofread each other's papers. We read War and Peace in our First-Year Course, and if that does not bring two people closer together, what will?

Madeline: Betsy and I love to laugh and make other people laugh.

Betsy: We laugh all the time around each other. We're always in hysterics. Madeline tells the best stories ever and has great nerdy science humor.

Madeline: We both love the great outdoors. Both being from small towns, we have a great longing to travel and see the world.

A postscript: After the initial interviews, Madeline e-mailed to say that she and Betsy had been discussing this story and had this to add:

Being from different cultures, Betsy and I have had continuing conversations on race and identity; however, for us more meaningful were the times we spent with each other's family. Betsy has made the perilous trip to the suburbs to dine with my family on my mother's excellent fried rice. And my family has traveled to Montana to see Betsy and her parents. This first contact proved hilarious for Betsy and me. Unbeknownst to our parents, these four people from distinctly different cultures were exactly alike. Our mothers were lively talkers, in love with their dogs, while our fathers simply sat back and quietly listened.