{"id":1617,"date":"2019-03-06T23:43:27","date_gmt":"2019-03-06T23:43:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-the-words\/?page_id=1617"},"modified":"2024-08-02T16:19:00","modified_gmt":"2024-08-02T16:19:00","slug":"this-book-is-not-yet-rated-peter-bognannis-newest-ya-novel-coming-this-april","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/the-words-march-2019\/this-book-is-not-yet-rated-peter-bognannis-newest-ya-novel-coming-this-april\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>This Book is Not Yet Rated<\/i>: Peter Bognanni\u2019s Newest YA Novel Coming this April"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"575\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/04\/Peter-Bognanni--1024x575.jpg\" alt=\"image of Peter Bognanni\" class=\"wp-image-1800\" style=\"width:472px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/04\/Peter-Bognanni--1024x575.jpg 1024w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/04\/Peter-Bognanni--300x169.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/04\/Peter-Bognanni--768x432.jpg 768w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/04\/Peter-Bognanni-.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jen Katz \u201919<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Films, friendship, and a failing business are central to Peter Bognanni\u2019s newest novel, which is set to be released on April 9. Bognanni, author of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The House of Tomorrow <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">(2010) and, more recently, the young adult novel <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Things I\u2019m Seeing Without You <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">(2017), explores the many meanings that movies can hold for people and the communities that spring up around them. <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Words <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">sat down with Bognanni to learn more about the inspiration for this book and what may be in store next. This interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"682\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/03\/THIS-BOOK-IS-NOT-YET-RATED-682x1024.jpg\" alt=\"This Book is Not Yet Rated\" class=\"wp-image-1630\" style=\"width:210px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/03\/THIS-BOOK-IS-NOT-YET-RATED-682x1024.jpg 682w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/03\/THIS-BOOK-IS-NOT-YET-RATED-200x300.jpg 200w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/03\/THIS-BOOK-IS-NOT-YET-RATED-768x1154.jpg 768w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2019\/03\/THIS-BOOK-IS-NOT-YET-RATED.jpg 1650w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Where did the idea for the book come from? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">[It came] from a relatively personal place. The book is a lot about someone who understands the world, understands grief, and is also mourning all of this through movies, and especially had a really strong bond with his father through movies, and that\u2019s pretty similar to my own experience. His father in the book has died and he\u2019s grieving him through movies; that\u2019s not the case in my life, but my dad and I bonded through [movies] growing up.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It\u2019s also based partially on the time I spent working at this independent movie theater called the Oak Street Cinema, which used to be in Dinkytown right after I graduated from Macalester. I had two jobs: I was a children\u2019s book editor by day and showing movies at the Oak Street sometimes by night. It was a really funny place\u2014it was completely falling apart, not very well funded, we had a rat problem. There was a really interesting cast of characters that I worked with.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was waiting for a story, and I got this idea one day when I was just fiddling around with some of it\u2026 What if one character\u2019s whole world is consumed by watching films, but he has a childhood friend who\u2019s actually in them? So the core relationship in the book is the main character, Ethan, getting back in touch with a girl that he was really good friends with when he was young and has been spit out the other end, and has moved back to their hometown. The movie theater is going out of business, and he tries to enlist her to help him out. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">There\u2019s two sides of the film world in it: there\u2019s being obsessed with watching movies, and actually being a part of them. And her character was inspired by me being on set watching <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The House of Tomorrow <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">filmed, which had a lot of teenage actors in it, and I would watch them talk to each other and hang out off camera, and I thought, \u201cWhat a weird teenage job to have.\u201d When I was a teenager, I had these menial jobs, and that\u2019s what I think of when I think of teenage jobs. How weird to be a really well-paid, valued, internationally known figure at the age of 16 or 17.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I talked to a lot of the actors who worked on that film and most of them did consider it work. Most of them had been doing it since they were little kids. I think they liked it, but it was a job to them, which I think is kind of mind-blowing. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>What did you learn from having been on both sides of the movie experience? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u05bcBeing on set was really fun. I think most people think that it\u2019s incredibly tedious, actually, when they go to a set because there might be 16 takes of somebody opening a door, so actually being there isn\u2019t super exciting every day. It\u2019s pretty meticulous work, but I think in that case it was fun for me because all of it was coming from stuff from my head that I was now seeing in real life. That probably made it more interesting.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before all of that, I was obsessive about watching movies. I used to go to this video store in my hometown of Des Moines called Video Warehouse\u2014a really unassuming name. Of course it\u2019s out of business now, but they were the only place in Des Moines at that time that had this huge catalog of foreign film and indie film: stuff that would one day become the Criterion Collection but at that time was just a weird videotape with lots of scratches and tracking problems. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">My dad got me into it because he was a huge film buff and wrote film reviews in college, so he\u2019d be watching lots of strange age-inappropriate things when I was a kid, and I was just along for the ride. When I became a teenager, I would go to that video store and seek out the weirdest, most obscure stuff I could find and watch everything. If I were a parent of myself back then, I might have been concerned about me and how much time I spent doing that. I think I was mostly just interested in the art of it, but at the same time, I spent a lot of time in a dark room watching movies when I could have been doing other things, and that\u2019s a problem that Ethan has, too. And he might need to break out of it.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Like avoiding real life. <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Or living in a world that makes it feel like his dad is still there, instead of dealing with the reality that he\u2019s not. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>How do you think movies relate to mourning? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I\u2019m a pretty sentimental person about movies. I feel like the movies that I really liked at a certain time, or watched with someone, or have a memory of have a pretty strong emotional impact on me. I mean, people go to the movies and feel really strong emotions\u2014even people who you would not suspect of that, so I think [movies] operate that way for a lot of people, but probably everybody has some experience where they saw something for the first time and they connect that experience with another person. Like either someone who said, \u201cHey, watch this,\u201d or someone that you saw it with or someone who maybe took your taste in a different direction. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel like I still rewatch things from when I was younger and I have connections to people through that experience, so I think that\u2019s what the character\u2019s doing, and is trying to keep his father\u2019s memory alive in that way.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Was the process of writing this book more personal than your other books? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel like there\u2019s always some personal aspect, like sometimes it\u2019s the material [like in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">This Book is Not Yet Rated<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">]. But other times, even if it\u2019s something that I don\u2019t have any experience with, like growing up in a geodesic dome, there\u2019s always some emotional connection. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s been more personal, but it\u2019s probably mined the experience of my own adolescent years more literally than anything else I\u2019ve written.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Do you think you\u2019ll keep writing YA lit?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It\u2019s funny, I go back and forth about that every day. I keep saying that I want to do both, but I keep having more ideas for YA books.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel like I\u2019m in a rhythm right now of writing [YA books]. I really like the idea of writing books that I would have wanted to read at that time that I don\u2019t think exist or existed, so I\u2019m filling up that hole. I don\u2019t know how long that will take, but I also feel like I\u2019m way more of an adult than I\u2019ve ever been right now\u2014like, I have two kids, and I want to write about that stuff, too.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For me, though, I feel like I need a little more distance. It\u2019s finally become easy for me to write about things that have happened to me and things that I cared about when I was 18, so maybe when I\u2019m 60, I\u2019ll be able to do that about my 40s. I don\u2019t know! It takes a while to get the right perspective.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>What\u2019s the difference in the feedback you get for your YA novels and your adult novels? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Actually, the world of hearing from people who have read your books is way better in YA because people experiencing art at that age have really passionate connections with the stuff that [they] like when they\u2019re the first books that you really loved, or the first band that you really loved. Those [connections] don\u2019t happen halfway. I feel like adult readers have had time to let those things become less important in their lives. They might have a really strong connection to a book, but it\u2019s not the one thing consuming them, whereas that might be the case hearing from a teenage reader.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">So the readers that I hear from are incredibly enthusiastic, but then you also get teenager readers reviewing your stuff on their blogs who totally hate it, and all of that passion is going in a different direction. That\u2019s interesting, too, actually.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>One final question: what\u2019s the best movie you\u2019ve seen lately? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I\u2019ll give a YA answer: it was <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eighth Grade. <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh my God, that was so good. I was watching it, and it ended, and I was white-knuckled. But what actually happened in that movie? And I was like, \u201cOh, yeah. She went to the pool and the mall.\u201d But the stakes feel so high! And I think that it does something that I would love to be able to do in my YA books, which is to put somebody back in that position of how intense some small moment that feels like it\u2019s life-or-death is at that age.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Words <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">extends our profound gratitude to Professor Bognanni for his time, insight, and humor. Common Good Books will be hosting the official book launch for <em>This Book is Not Yet Rated&nbsp;<\/em>on Wednesday April 10 at 7:00 p.m.&nbsp;Make sure to follow the Macalester English Department on <a class=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MacalesterEnglish\/?ref=br_rs\">our Facebook page<\/a> and <a class=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/oldmainfloor2?lang=en\">our Twitter page<\/a> for more information about <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">This Book is Not Yet Rated.<\/span><\/i><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jen Katz \u201919 Films, friendship, and a failing business are central to Peter Bognanni\u2019s newest novel, which is set to be released on April 9. 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