{"id":4297,"date":"2022-04-06T23:07:43","date_gmt":"2022-04-06T23:07:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-the-words\/?page_id=4297"},"modified":"2024-08-19T18:01:16","modified_gmt":"2024-08-19T18:01:16","slug":"a-classical-philologist-two-x-files-podcast-hosts-and-a-flight-paramedic-four-english-majors-post-macalester-journeys","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/home-2\/the-words-april-2022\/a-classical-philologist-two-x-files-podcast-hosts-and-a-flight-paramedic-four-english-majors-post-macalester-journeys\/","title":{"rendered":"A Classical Philologist, Two X-Files Podcast Hosts, and a Flight Paramedic: Four English Majors\u2019 Post-Macalester Journeys"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">By Alice Asch \u201822<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had the recent pleasure of speaking with four alumni: Amy Vandervelde \u201821, Amanda Zimmerman \u201816, Ella Brakob \u201816, and Josh Weiner \u201816. They\u2019ve taken fascinating routes since graduating\u2014and they\u2019ve all found ways to apply their English major skills to their various occupations. Enjoy their interviews below!&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft wp-image-4294 size-medium\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Selfie-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4294\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Selfie-225x300.jpg 225w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Selfie-768x1024.jpg 768w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Selfie-1152x1536.jpg 1152w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Selfie-1536x2048.jpg 1536w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Selfie-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Amy in her office at UIUC!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Amy Vandervelde \u201821 <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">is a former English department student worker AND <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Words<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> editor! She graduated just last spring, with majors in English Lit and Classics, and a Political Science minor. Amy\u2019s now a PhD student in Classical Philology at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC), where she focuses on Latin and Ancient Greek. She\u2019s currently researching the mythical figure of Perspehone.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you have a favorite memory from the English department? What about a favorite class\/professor?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think my favorite memories are days spent in the copy room early on Monday mornings with my fellow student workers\u2014Dalton Greene, Julia Joy, and Sophie Hilker. We always had a fun time setting up Bagel Monday and starting the coffee up. Dreary Mondays were always all the better when I was in the Mac English department.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">If I had to pick a favorite class in the English department, I would choose Professor Geng\u2019s Demonology course. I absolutely <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">loved<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> that class. It was the perfect amount of spooky and gothic horror.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you have a favorite memory from The Words?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a hard question for me. I really enjoyed all of my time spent as an editor for <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Words<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. I always loved our writing process when we were wrapping up edits and having our weekly meetings alongside department Treat Night. Writing for <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Words<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> gave me the opportunity to share the wholesome experience of being a part of the Mac English department community with others and to spread the word about all the exciting aspects of our department.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What has been the most surprising thing about your grad school experience so far? How about the most exciting thing?&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Grad school has certainly already been full of surprises, but I think the most surprising element has been how much the grad student cohort here reminds me of the great groups that I was a part of at Macalester. We are all a totally supportive bunch here, and we are always cheering each other on. Some of us within the Classics grad cohort have even formed an intramural softball team this year, so we\u2019ll see how that goes for us.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft wp-image-4296 size-medium\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Conference-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4296\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Conference-300x225.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Conference-1024x768.jpg 1024w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Conference-768x576.jpg 768w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Conference-1536x1152.jpg 1536w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amy_Conference-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Amy and her department peers at the 118th Classical Association of the Midwest and South conference!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">My most exciting experience in grad school was attending my first academic conference with some of my department peers. We traveled from UIUC to Wake Forest University in North Carolina for the 118<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">th<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Classical Association of the Midwest and South conference just last week. It was an unforgettable experience. We were able to bond as a group outside of our usual setting, and I had so much fun attending panels and listening to my peers\u2019 papers and those of other colleagues that I met at the conference.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How did your time at Macalester (specifically in the English department) influence your grad school experience?&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">My English major experience has supported me leaps and bounds here in grad school. While my program is heavily language focused, I like to look at things from a very literary perspective, which often helps me find some interesting research ideas. Some of the papers I worked on in my undergrad time at Mac\u2014like a paper of mine that Professor Elkins knows well on intertextuality in Ali Smith\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Autumn<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u2014have continued to stay with me here in grad school. One of my current papers that I am working on is looking at intertextuality in Cicero\u2019s translated poetry. The literary theories that I learned and worked with in undergrad are framing many of my questions in grad school.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">My undergrad experience has always greatly impacted the way I approach writing assignments. From every literature and creative writing class I took at Macalester, I have come to grad school with a clear sense of how I like to write and revise my own writing. I still change it up and try new methods every once in a while, but generally all of my writing work in undergrad has bettered my graduate writing astronomically.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What advice would you give to current English majors who are applying to grad school? What do you wish you\u2019d known as an undergrad?&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">My advice: you have far more skills than you give yourself credit for. I am not someone with the greatest sense of self-confidence, so trust me when I say this. You are far more skilled than you admit. You don\u2019t want to be hubristic in your applications by any means, but you should be confident in your abilities. It\u2019s something I\u2019m still working on. Small things from not saying \u201cthis paper is totally bad\u201d to saying \u201cthis paper has some not so great pieces, but it has some awesome ideas in it as well.\u201d These little changes in your attitude and self-confidence can go a long way.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the advice I give my students here at UIUC: it\u2019s really hard to ask for help, but it\u2019s also really important to ask for help. Things come up and the world might seem to be falling apart around you, but your professors and your TAs are here to support you in your learning. It takes an extraordinary amount of courage to ask for help, and you deserve the help you need to succeed.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft wp-image-4293 size-medium\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amanda-and-Ella-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4293\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amanda-and-Ella-300x200.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amanda-and-Ella-1024x683.jpg 1024w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amanda-and-Ella-768x512.jpg 768w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2022\/04\/Amanda-and-Ella.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Amanda and Ella!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Amanda Zimmerman \u201816<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u2014another former student worker\u2014<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">has joined the exciting world of podcasting! Along with her friend and fellow Macalester alum Ella Brakob \u201816, she hosts \u201cScully Nation,\u201d where they discuss an episode of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The X-Files<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> every week. You can listen to it on Apple Podcasts <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/scully-nation-an-x-files-rewatch-podcast\/id1547549692\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">here<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">! Amanda also works as a project manager at a non-profit consulting firm in the Twin Cities.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you have a favorite memory from the English department? What about a favorite class or professor?&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I really loved my time as a student worker in the department. I was able to help out at amazing book launches, hone my writing skills as a newsletter editor, and meet an amazing community of people. Jan is the best and I&#8217;m grateful I&#8217;ve been able to keep in contact with her. I also had the pleasure of taking some wonderful classes that challenged me and changed my perspective. Some of my favorite classes were Re-writing the Victorians with Lesley Goodman, Shakespeare with Terry Krier, and Literary Publishing with Anitra Budd.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Where did the idea for \u201cScully Nation\u201d come from?&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ella and I had a few radio shows at WMCN when we were at Macalester, including an English Department show called The Spoken Words. We both enjoyed being on the radio (probably something about public speaking without actually having to see the public you&#8217;re speaking to &#8211; it makes it a lot easier). After college, we knew we always wanted to do a podcast. I mean, who doesn\u2019t have a podcast these days? We kicked around ideas, including one where we took a more academic approach to analyzing genre films. All those ended up being pretty time consuming for two people with full time jobs who never intended to monetize the podcast. So we settled on Scully Nation.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What\u2019s your favorite part of podcasting?&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Someone once said a podcast is like having a band: it&#8217;s basically an excuse to hang out with your friends on a regular basis and do something creative together. I like having a reason to consistently set aside time to be with my friend despite our busy lives. Knowing that strangers (however small that group may be) also enjoy our nonsense and inside jokes is an added bonus. And I get to watch The X-Files! It&#8217;s a win-win.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How did your experiences as an English major at Macalester influence your work in podcasting?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our origin story was really The Spoken Words radio show. That&#8217;s when Ella and I realized we enjoyed broadcasting\/podcasting together. Lots of credit and love to Jan Beebe, who encouraged us when we were student workers in the English Department.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What advice would you give to current English majors? What do you wish you\u2019d known as an undergrad?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know the world has changed significantly, even in the years since I graduated. But it&#8217;s still true that your experiences as English majors at Macalester prepare you for a lot. When it comes to searching for jobs, it&#8217;s easy to feel like an English degree is hard to market. But you&#8217;re all great writers, editors, critical thinkers. You&#8217;ll find your path, even if it&#8217;s not what you expected when you graduated. You also gotta find something you love to do outside of work. Enjoy your hobbies for their own sake &#8211; they&#8217;ll keep you sane.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Of course, we couldn\u2019t interview Amanda without also speaking to <\/span><b>Ella Brakob \u201816<\/b>, her podcasting co-host!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you have a favorite memory from the English department? What about a favorite class or professor?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Working in the English Department and just spending time on the second floor with everyone coming in and out all day long was always a relaxing vibe and a good way to connect. Also, every Treat Night, of course. I took a lot of great classes in the English Department, but I was partial to my Novella capstone class with Peter Bognanni.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tell us about \u201cScully Nation\u201d!<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">We don&#8217;t take it too seriously, it&#8217;s just a great excuse to spend time with friends and spend time talking about something we love in detail. Sometimes, we accidentally stumble upon serious media criticism, but mostly we just goof around about all the 90s fashion and logical leaps the show makes.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What\u2019s your favorite part of podcasting?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The act of recording the podcast is always a fun two hours in my week, but it also gives us a sense of accomplishment and ownership over something that we spend time on producing. There&#8217;s watching the episode, taking notes and researching background info on the production\/writing\/actors\/etc., then the technical aspects of making sure our microphones\/sound are good, promoting the show on social media, and interacting with listeners. Even though it&#8217;s more of a hobby than a vocation, it&#8217;s a fun and fulfilling use of time.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How did your experiences as an English major at Macalester influence your work in podcasting?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I like to think that our experience hosting the English Department show gave us a leg up on keeping up the chatter over the course of an episode.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In a broader sense, how did your time at Macalester influence your post-grad experiences?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think my time at Mac helped prepare me for thinking critically not just about literature, but media and culture as a broader category. I learned how to be open-minded, but not to take things at face value. This is a mindset that I hope I&#8217;ve been able to bring to various parts of my post-grad life.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Besides podcasting, what else have you been up to since Macalester?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I&#8217;ve been working on writing a novel that I&#8217;ve just finished up recently in this past year.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What advice would you give to current English majors? What do you wish you\u2019d known as an undergrad?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Spend more time at Treat Night! Take plenty of classes in all sorts of departments, broaden your horizons, and pick up a minor just because you can.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Josh Weiner \u201816<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> has taken a completely different route<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u2014<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">he now works as a flight paramedic!&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you have a favorite memory from the English department? Favorite class or professor?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hard to choose! Some contenders: winning an impromptu competition in Prof. Matt Burgess&#8217;s class; going to a screening of Hamlet in Penelope Geng&#8217;s Shakespeare class; helping with the faculty hiring committees; many, many, department events and meals.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What have you been up to since Macalester? What are you doing now?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">I started training as a paramedic before even graduating from Macalester, and have been in that line of work ever since. I&#8217;ve spent time in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Arizona. Currently I work as a paramedic here in the Twin Cities. We provide critical care and transport to patients by helicopter and airplane all over the Upper Midwest. It&#8217;s a ton of fun and very rewarding. I&#8217;m also starting graduate school this fall!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How (if at all) did your experience as an English major influence your current line of work?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In many ways. As an English major you learn to analyze closely, be persuasive, weigh different perspectives, critique your own work and your peers&#8217;, and consider nuance. I use these skills every day, and you will too, regardless of your line of work.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">What advice would you give to current English majors? What do you wish you\u2019d known as an undergrad?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The relationships you are building are as important as the books you&#8217;re reading. 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