{"id":6099,"date":"2023-12-06T21:13:15","date_gmt":"2023-12-06T21:13:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-the-words\/?page_id=6099"},"modified":"2024-08-19T15:57:21","modified_gmt":"2024-08-19T15:57:21","slug":"q-a-with-professor-sarah-ghazal-ali","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/home-2\/the-words-december-2023\/q-a-with-professor-sarah-ghazal-ali\/","title":{"rendered":"Q &amp; A With Professor Sarah Ghazal Ali"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">by Ahlaam Abdulwali \u201825<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last semester, the English department hired and welcomed Professor Sarah Ghazal Ali. Her upcoming poetry collection <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Theophanies <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">is the 2022 Alice James Award Editor\u2019s Choice. One of the poems from this collection, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/poets.org\/poem\/matrilineage-umbilicus\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Matrilineage [umbilicus]<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, was featured on <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/poets.org\/poem-a-day\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Poem-a-Day<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and I strongly encourage you to read this contrapuntal poem if you haven\u2019t already. Professor Ali starts teaching classes here in the fall semester of 2024, and we wanted to check in to hear more about Professor Ali\u2019s life since being hired at Mac.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>AA: I couldn\u2019t help but notice that your middle name is Ghazal! Do you think your name ended up being a self-fulfilling prophecy in some way?&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">SGA: I love this question! I do think it\u2019s a funny case of nominative determinism. I became curious about my name pretty early in life. My father has a beautiful voice, and would often sing Pakistani ghazals in the car. One day I asked him what was special about those songs, why he liked them, and he explained to me that they were ghazals\u2014repetitive, musical poems driven by passion and\/or pain. The way he explained them to me imbued them with wonder and magic, and I\u2019ve been fascinated by formal poetry ever since.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright is-resized wp-image-6115\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2023\/12\/Ghazal-Ali-Article-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"Professor Ali with her partner and daughter\" class=\"wp-image-6115\" style=\"width:360px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2023\/12\/Ghazal-Ali-Article-1024x683.jpeg 1024w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2023\/12\/Ghazal-Ali-Article-300x200.jpeg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2023\/12\/Ghazal-Ali-Article-768x512.jpeg 768w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2023\/12\/Ghazal-Ali-Article-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/the-words\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/603\/2023\/12\/Ghazal-Ali-Article-2048x1365.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Professor Ali with her partner and daughter<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><b>AA: What has your writing process been like this past year? Are you finding yourself drawn to specific forms or content? When writing, do you start off with a form in mind, or do you let a form appear from what you wrote?&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">SGA: This past year, I\u2019ve been reading a lot more than writing, but when I do write, it\u2019s usually ekphrastic. I\u2019ve been writing more poems that respond to art, and have been thinking of the blank page as a room I\u2019m about to enter in a museum. What might it look like to write a poem that acts as an exhibit, and to frame the book as a museum or gallery space a reader might meander through? I\u2019m not sure where this will take me, but it\u2019s what I\u2019m thinking about these days. Overall, form usually drives content for me\u2014it gives me a useful shape to feel the poem through.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>AA: I\u2019m currently taking a course focused on poetic attention with Professor Michael Prior. How has your poetic attention shifted or changed within the past year? How do you expect it to change as you adjust to Macalester?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">SGA: My attention has shifted dramatically with the birth of my daughter this past July. This is the first time in my life that I have no time at all to think about myself\u2014all my time, attention, and energy are directed toward her instead. I sit and watch her breathe, I obsess over how much she\u2019s drinking and sleeping. She has made me more hungry for poetry that attempts to imagine into being a better world, a better future. I think being at Macalester, surrounded by bright young minds, will continue to hone my focus on poetry that envisions otherwise\u2014Adrienne Rich said in \u201cDreamwood\u201d that \u201cpoetry \/ isn\u2019t revolution but a way of knowing \/ why it must come.\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>AA: You\u2019ll be moving from California to Minnesota soon! What are you most excited for in St. Paul? Do you think this change in landscape will shape your poetry differently?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">SGA: I\u2019m really excited to experience real seasons! Northern California just has hot summer and cold summer, so I\u2019m looking forward to being able to track time more clearly just by looking out my window. I went to grad school in Amherst, Massachusetts, where I noticed that I tend to write better during the winter. I\u2019m hoping the long winters in Minnesota are fruitful seasons for my creative work.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>AA: I speak for everyone when I say that we are all excited for you to be on campus! How have you been spending your last year in California? How do you feel about the move?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">SGA: Thank you, I\u2019m just as excited to come and meet you all! I\u2019ve been spending a lot of my time with family, making sure everyone gets plenty of baby snuggles in before we move. I\u2019m also trying to soak in as much of the literary scene in San Francisco before I leave\u2014I\u2019m going to miss Green Apple Books and City Lights so dearly. It\u2019s always sad to leave a familiar, beloved place, but I\u2019m so, so excited to find new things and places and people to cherish in the Midwest. Moving means growing to me!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>AA: Are there any poems\/poets that you\u2019ve been reading lately? What draws you to these poems\/poets?&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">SGA: I\u2019ve been spending time with the work of Palestinian poets lately, for what they teach me about humanity, resilience, and clarity\u2014specifically <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Birthright<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> by George Abraham and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">You Can Be the Last Leaf<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> by Maya Abu Al-Hayyat. Al-Hayyat\u2019s work is gorgeous because of the way humor and levity are woven throughout. Abraham\u2019s work I&#8217;ve been relishing for its formal inventiveness. George does things on and with the page that are deeply exciting and surprising and alive. I\u2019m also rereading Rilke\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Book of Hours<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. I return to it whenever I feel distant from poetry. It brings me back, time and time again.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you to Professor Ali for taking the time out of her busy schedule to answer my questions! As an aspiring poet, it\u2019s wonderful to learn more about the writing process. Be sure to be on the lookout for Theophanies in 2024!<\/span><\/i><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Ahlaam Abdulwali \u201825 Last semester, the English department hired and welcomed Professor Sarah Ghazal Ali. Her upcoming poetry collection Theophanies is the 2022 Alice James Award Editor\u2019s Choice. 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